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Cigarette smoking outside of library

Please move the ashtray and cigarette butt collectors farther from the entrance and book return. In their current locations, they encourage smokers to congregate at the entrance and near the bench. This is very unpleasant for those of us who do not smoke. Thank you!


Sheryl Rzetelny
Mon, 2010-01-25 13:01

The Library is committed to provide a smoke free environment for all employees and visitors. I regret you experienced an unpleasant entry to the Library during your recent visit.

Our policy is derived from Section 1008 of the Wayne Country Clean Indoor Regulation #2005-001, [Adopted March 17, 2005] which states that smoking shall be prohibited within a distance of six (6) feet surrounding entrances. Our smoking urns are much farther away from the entrance than the required 6 feet. Our building and security staff periodically check the entrance but it's unlikely they will be able to identify all patrons violating the 6' distance. We'll continue to monitor the entrance and do our best to provide a pleasant experience for you and all our patrons.

Mon, 2010-01-25 17:17

I appreciate your response, but I am pretty confident that the Wayne County regulation specifies a minimum standard, and does not say that you must have ashtrays at 6' from the door. Also, I do not agree that your smoking urns are farther from the entrance than 6' - the day I noticed someone smoking outside the door, there was an ashtray within 4' of the entrance door and the person was standing right next to it. This ashtray was still in the same location yesterday when I wrote the complaint, although, thankfully, no one was standing over it puffing away. I am an architect so I am familiar with estimating distances.

I am suggesting that this ashtray and smoking urns be moved farther from the entrance than they are now. The urns you mentioned were positioned near the bench that's between the entrance and the book return. This just encourages people to stand and smoke between the parking lot and the entrance, where all patrons must walk to enter the building.

When I left the library yesterday after writing my suggestion, I had to travel through someone's cloud of cigarette smoke. The man was standing near the column by the bench. I have asthma and walking through this smoke made me cough.

I do understand that you need to have these urns so that people don't throw their cigarette butts into the flammable landscaping or onto the sidewalk, but can't there be a balance for those of us who don't smoke? Why not designate a smoking area that’s far from the entrance – maybe near the northeast corner of the building where few people walk past?

Even better, why can't the entire library grounds, including parking lot and sidewalks, be a smoke-free zone?

Sheryl Rzetelny
Tue, 2010-01-26 12:07

I do appreciate your frustration. We try to keep our ash receptacles an appropriate distance from the building but they are not fixed and are often moved by library patrons. You are correct when you note that a trash problem is created by not providing ash trays close to the entrance. This is an ongoing issue which our Building Supervisor will confirm, as he cleans up the refuse daily. I thank you for your support of the Library and we will take your request to designate a specific smoking area away from the entrance under consideration.

Wed, 2010-04-14 12:46

I would be so happy if you can actually keep the ash receptacles away form the doors and the book drop. I have a 3 year old child who likes to use the kids book drop even if we are going into the library which i do not like because there always is someone smoking near by making a smoke cloud for us to walk through. I seriously hope you could have the receptacles moved further away and since so many kid use the book drop I think it would be good idea to even put up a no smoking sign near it.

Sheryl Rzetelny
Thu, 2010-04-15 09:29

I understand your concern for your child. The Library will be making notable changes to the book drop area in the next few weeks with the installation of a new automatic sorting system. As the area is updated, we will relocate the ash receptacles to the other side of the entrance, which will address your issue.

Tue, 2010-04-13 18:33

Your intolerance is astounding. You do not deserve to live in a free country like America if you cant even tolerate walking by another person who happens to be smoking. Just a thought, check yoself before you wreck yoself, peace b****s

Thu, 2010-04-15 10:01

BWEYRICK: you think that tolerance means that I should inhale your smoke without complaint? That's an interesting interpretation of the concept. Maybe you could try being tolerant to those of us who made the choice not to take up a habit that involves not only inhaling toxic chemicals but forcing others to inhale them, too.

Tue, 2011-01-18 17:39

thanks admin

Tue, 2011-01-25 11:59

Hospitals prohibit smoking anywhere on their property: in front of the entrances, parking lots, sidewalks, etc.
Maybe the same can be done for city property.

Tue, 2011-01-25 16:24

It has been a year to the day of the first post about people smoking outside the doors of the library. It is still happening. My 8 year old son asked me the other day, why a woman was standing at the book drop smoking. I told him that she was being rude. It is your choice to smoke, just don't do it at the door or at the book drop. I think that the front of the library should be a no smoking area.

Thu, 2011-01-27 12:53

Hold your breath and walk by, cigarettes are not new business.

Sun, 2011-02-06 23:36

Hi justin! Agreed. Most of you who are so adamantly against smokers probably drink diet products. There IS a designated smoking zone to the left side of the entrance.